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Breaking News!!! SC rules Bush Admin. overstepped authority
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:22 am
Swordsman
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Ruling that Military tribunals for terrorists are illegal.
It's just hitting the wires right now. I have no link yet, but will post one when I find it...
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:24 am
James Bond
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CNN: The Supreme Court rules President Bush overstepped his authority with military war crimes trials for foreigners held at Guantanamo Bay in a case involving a former driver for Osama bin Laden.
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:24 am
Swordsman
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Swordsman wrote:
of Al Quada!
It's just hitting the wires right now. I have no link yet, but will post one when I find it...
Here's the first link, more in a few minutes...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,201530,00.html
Supreme Court Blocks Guantanamo Bay War-Crimes Trials
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:26 am
Swordsman
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Quote:
WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that President Bush overstepped his authority in ordering military war crimes trials for Guantanamo Bay detainees, a rebuke to the administration and its aggressive anti-terror policies.
Justice John Paul Stevens wrote the opinion, which said the proposed trials were illegal under U.S. law and Geneva conventions.
The case focused on Salim Ahmed Hamdan, a Yemeni who worked as a body guard and driver for Usama bin Laden. Hamdan, 36, has spent four years in the U.S. prison at Guantanamo. He faces a single count of conspiring against U.S. citizens from 1996 to November 2001.
Two years ago, the court rejected Bush's claim to have the authority to seize and detain terrorism suspects and indefinitely deny them access to courts or lawyers. In this followup case, the justices focused solely on the issue of trials for some of the men
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,201530,00.html
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:27 am
communistsforkerry
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JUSTICE FOR JIHADISTS
WHOOPTY FUCKING DO
Supreme Court Blocks Bush, Gitmo War Trials
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:28 am
Swordsman
Location: Apopka, Fl
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Quote:
By GINA HOLLAND
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON
The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that President Bush overstepped his authority in ordering military war crimes trials for Guantanamo Bay detainees.
The ruling, a rebuke to the administration and its aggressive anti- terror policies, was written by Justice John Paul Stevens, who said the proposed trials were illegal under U.S. law and Geneva conventions.
The case focused on Salim Ahmed Hamdan, a Yemeni who worked as a bodyguard and driver for Osama bin Laden. Hamdan, 36, has spent four years in the U.S. prison in Cuba. He faces a single count of conspiring against U.S. citizens from 1996 to November 2001.
Two years ago, the court rejected Bush's claim to have the authority to seize and detain terrorism suspects and indefinitely deny them access to courts or lawyers. In this followup case, the justices focused solely on the issue of trials for some of the men.
The vote was split 5-3, with moderate Justice Anthony M. Kennedy joining the court's liberal members in ruling against the Bush administration. Chief Justice John Roberts, named to the lead the court last September by Bush, was sidelined in the case because as an appeals court judge he had backed the government over Hamdan.
Thursday's ruling overturned that decision.
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/29/D8IHU47G2.html
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:28 am
Three Storms
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Great. Now the Supreme Court is aiding terrorists.
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:29 am
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One More Nail In The Coffin.
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:35 am
Swordsman
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I'm really not happy with this ruling. FOXNEWS was just commenting that Justice Roberts recused himself, so he played no part in hearing the arguments, because he ruled in favor back when this was in the district court before his confirmation.
I really want to hear the justification as to why a terrorist who is *not* a professional soldier of any nation/state, who doesn't wear a uniform, or conform to the standards of combat as per the Geneva Conventions should receive the same benifits that real POW's do - Al Queda & the Taliban fighters sure as hell don't offer us the same considerations!!!
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:42 am
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Oh noes, having to give people a fair trial based on real evidence and not circumstance or hearsay. What a blow for liberty and democracy...
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:45 am
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prolific8 wrote:
Oh noes, having to give people a fair trial based on real evidence and not circumstance or hearsay. What a blow for liberty and democracy...
This is a war.
While I will assert the president should--out of respect to the constitution--abide by the SCOTUS decision I am curious to know whether they believe all people over the entire world are entitled to the full privileges of the US citizens they are trying to kill.
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:45 am
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prolific8 wrote:
Oh noes, having to give people a fair trial based on real evidence and not circumstance or hearsay. What a blow for liberty and democracy...
We should follow the Geneva convention, then.....
Line them up and shoot.
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:46 am
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GUANTANAMO BAY U.S. NAVAL BASE -- A U.S. Supreme Court ruling on war crimes tribunals being held at Guantanamo navy base will have little effect on the detention camp that holds 450 foreign captives, the camp commander said.
"I don't think there's any direct outcome on our detention operation," Rear Adm. Harry Harris, the prison commander, said in an interview this week.
The high court upheld Thursday a Guantanamo defendant's challenge to President Bush's power to create the military tribunals to try suspected al Qaeda conspirators and Taliban supporters after the Sept. 11 attacks.
Harris said he would build a second courtroom if the tribunals are allowed to proceed but little else would change because the court was not asked to rule on Guantanamo itself, a prison camp that human rights groups, the United Nations and foreign governments have sharply criticized.
The tribunals have also come under fire from lawyers, who say they are rigged to ensure conviction and offer none of the basic guarantees and rights granted suspects in the U.S. justice system or to which formal prisoners of war would be entitled.
Ten detainees at Guantanamo have been charged before the tribunals, and prosecutors have said they will charge as many as 25 more if the court rules in favor of the commissions.
"If they rule against the government I don't see how that's going to affect us. From my perspective I think the impact will be negligible," Harris told Reuters.
About 120 other prisoners at the base in have been cleared for release, or transfer to their homelands where Washington expects them to remain in detention.
Faced with growing international condemnation of the camp after three prisoners committed suicide on June 10, President Bush has said he would like to empty the detention center.
But the director of interrogations at Guantanamo said many of the rest could be held a very long time because U.S. officials will not release those whom they are convinced have the connections, training and means to carry out attacks.
"Nobody wants to be the first person to allow the next 9/11 to happen," said interrogations chief Paul Rester. "Emptying this place is not my goal."
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/6/29/103351.shtml?s=lh
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:46 am
ThorHammer
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MrSnuggleBunny wrote:
prolific8 wrote:
Oh noes, having to give people a fair trial based on real evidence and not circumstance or hearsay. What a blow for liberty and democracy...
This is a war.
While I will assert the president should--out of respect to the constitution--abide by the SCOTUS decision I am curious to know whether they believe all people over the entire world are entitled to the full privileges of the US citizens they are trying to kill.
and whether they understand that the people being held at Gitmo are illegal combatants and therefore, essentially, have zero rights.
Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:47 am
mwrl
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SC stated today that Terrorists have no rights and should be shot on sight!!!
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